Outies (Mote Series, Book 3)
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Outies (Mote Series, Book 3)

Paperback – March 30, 2011

Price
$16.99
Format
Paperback
Pages
400
Publisher
New Brookland Press
Publication Date
ISBN-13
978-0615434148
Dimensions
5.25 x 0.91 x 8 inches
Weight
14.7 ounces

Description

"an interesting and enjoyable...experiment in...the union of technology and character..." ----K. Kris Hirst, About.com - Archaeology"a very satisfying picture of a spacefaring civilization by the best hard-science fiction writing team (and now daughter) in the business...very much recommended." ----The Old Grey Cat, Wordpress.com"...articulate and intelligent...everything a sequel to an acclaimed novel should be..." ----SF Book Reviews"What does it mean to have a war so destructive that society is blasted back to the invention of the brick? ... how does one rebuild? ... Jennifer Pournelle has thought about exactly that. There isn't much science fiction written by broadminded, well-traveled polymaths." -- More Words, Deeper Hole: A Guest Review by Carlos I thought about the post-war (or was it still war?) period of 2003-2004 for a good long time after returning home from Iraq. Of the many things I pondered, one was war fiction, and especially military science fiction. War books have compelling plots, generally along the lines of: there are good guys; there are bad guys. Sometimes bad guys, that is, guys who were individually bad, redeem themselves and become heroic good guys. Anyway, the good guys win, or die valiantly trying. War's over. The End.But nothing I saw in Iraq was ever that cut-and-dried. On any given day, it was hard to tell if, whenxa0and where we were having a war. It was generally impossible to tell good guys from bad guys. There were many shades of both, on both sides. Technology sometimes won the day, but seldom won the outcome. None of us outsiders, ever, knew what the locals were thinking - even if they pretended to tell us. And everything, absolutely everything, including matters of life and death, was weighed and measured by social standards and rules of conduct that we simply could not read. That's what "first contact" stories are really about - and that's what Niven & Pournelle did with The Mote in God's Eye some 35 years ago. So, as I thought about it, I decided: wouldn't it be interesting to try to flip that around: to get inside the heads of locals and others who had the same dilemna in reverse. I drew a lot on my Iraq experience trying to do that. To make this a credible sequel, I took careful, detailed notes on timelines, political precedents, character traits, and technologies from Mote and The Gripping Hand, and tried to be excedingly careful to stick to the "realities" of that universe. But, given that the first Mote was written 35 years ago, I also wanted to update the science and gender issues that were at the core of the original novel. First, because Sally Fowler (a central character in the original book) was ostensibly an anthropologist,xa0in my sequel, I brought in another anthropologist to serve as a new protagonist andxa0do real anthropological things. Second, I spent a lot ofxa0studying reproductive biology, in order to write in backstory that made sense of the Motie's bizarre physiology. It's written up inxa0the report in the Appendix. You don't have to read that, but if you are interested, you can - and if you demand more answers than are in the story itself, you should. What I did NOT try to do was copy Niven & Pournelle's style. Firstly, they are, after all, still writing and need no help from me to do that. Secondly, I wanted to get at that sense of disordered confusion - that sense of nobody being quite sure where they are, literally and figuratively, as a place teeters on the brink ofxa0 (or of pulling back from) war. So, each chapter deals with four threads. Mentally, I think of them as:xa0Imperials (and what they are up to); Church and Statexa0(that is, events in New Utah's capitol city, St. George); The Pale (that is, Bonneville andxa0the Barrens); and Beyond the Pale (that is, the Barrens and Outback). These threads each move forward independently for awhile, but of course come together as the book goes on. In Iraq, that would be something like trying to keep track of what's going on in Washington D.C., Baghdad, Nasiriya, and the desert wastes of Dhi Qar province. From the standpoint of standing next to a single well at a roadside shrine, it's hard to grasp that those other places even exist - let alone have much relevance. But of course they do.Finally, the ending was intended as a bit of fun, consistent with the other "remote fringe" of Second Empire space (King David's Spaceship) that launched my father's career in science fiction writing. I hope that diehard Pournelle fans who spot the premise will recognise it for what it is: an intentional homage to him. And by the way, I expect most fans of his know this already, but he's J.E.xa0 I'm J.R. From the Inside Flap Since first contact with the alien Mote civilization, expansion of the Second Empire of Man has slowed. The Fleet's attention has become consumed with blocking Motie access to human space--and holding that thin line now depends upon a shaky alliance with the horrifically prolific, technologically brilliant, three-armed Moties themselves. Under the terms of Horace Bury's will, human and Motie shareholders have also assumed joint control of industrial giant Imperial Autonetics. However, the Empire still decides the fate of worlds. Those already in possession of space-worthy craft may join as Classified systems, and enjoy the benefits of access to new technology, trading rights, and Fleet protection. Those less advanced may be parceled out as colonial concessions. Outworlds that refuse to join risk conquest by zealous commanders intent on preserving the hard-won peace at any cost. Worlds boasting great riches are targeted for quick accession. Those presenting any danger are targeted for quick destruction. Yet, though their very planets depend on guessing the right questions, and delivering the right answers, in the remote backwaters of Imperial space, few of these details are known to the Outies themselves. Set in the first chaotic year following Horace Bury's death, this new sequel to King David's Spaceship, The Mote in God's Eye, and The Gripping Hand introduces Asach Quinn, a human character as enigmatic as the alien Moties. It shifts point of view from those engaged in the vast race across the stars, to that of the "outies" themselves. Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle rocked the science fiction world with The Mote in God's Eye . Sentient, capable, and even charming, the "Moties" nevertheless proved to be enemies of humankind-not by intent, but by dint of biology. Bringing a new generation of Moties to life for a new generation of readers, J.R. Pournelle explores the sources and consequences of that biology--questioning what, in the end, it means to be an alien and an outsider."While faithful to the premises of The Mote in God's Eye , Outies takes a fresh look at that universe from the fringes of the Second Empire of Man." -- Larry Niven "With page turning action coupled to a stunning sense of place, Outies takes the notion of 'first contact' to new levels." -- Jerry Pournelle Jennifer R. Pournelle is an archaeologist and anthropologist best known for reconstructing landscapes surrounding ancient cities. Her work in Turkey, Iraq, and the Caucasus has been featured in Science magazine, The New York Times and on The Discovery Channel, National Geographic, NOVA, and UK Channel Four . In a former life, she received numerous decorations for service as a United States Army officer and arms control negotiator, and directed reconstruction work in Iraq as a civilian.Pournelle is the 2010 recipient of the South Carolina Poetry Initiative Book Prize, for Excavations, A City Cycle, first released in paperback by the University of South Carolina Press in October, 2011. She now resides in Liguria, Italy. Read more

Features & Highlights

  • In a return to the CoDominium universe of the Second Empire of Man, Outies pauses at the fringes of human space, on an outworld that never knew fossil fuels. New Utah instead pushed crude solar technologies to the limits of everyday utility. But a planet is a big place - and it's time for the New Utahns to meet the neighbors. Blending hard science and social science, Outies explores complexities of biology, geology, and ecology at the heart of alien Motie society and evolution. While military science fiction in a sense, that sense is very much of the wars of our time. Outies plunges through the confusion, chaos, factionalism, and unpredictability of low intensity conflict with realism, but largely through civilian eyes. In a twist on traditional space opera, it introduces Asach Quinn - a wily, thoughtful, genderless, and diplomatic foil to reckless pilot Kevin Renner. Leaving the aristocratic manors of Sparta, Quinn burrows deep inside the heads of members of the Church of Him - who believe that the red dwarf visible twinkling through the Coal Sack Nebula is literally the Eye of God. Pournelle - an ex-Army intelligence officer turned anthropologist - provides New Utah and its characters with a rich sense of place and deep motivations; hints at what may become, over the next millenium, of Mormons, moties, and Earth islanders displaced by sea level rise - and even masters some Tok Pisin along the way.At nearly 110,000 words (about 400 print pages), the book is packed with additional material designed to allow the reader to explore New Utah in as much depth as desired. For those new to (or needing a refresher on) the Mote series, a detailed chronology lists key events over the five centuries preceding Outies. The cast of characters is organized by role and location, providing hints of relationships that unwind over the course of the novel. A map lays out the continental-scale environs in which the story is set. An appendix provides a guide to acronyms, details of religious history and organization, an explanation of alien accounting systems, and evolutionary biology. There is even an original musical score, composed by music theorist J. Daniel Jenkins. Outies is an authorized sequel to The Mote in God's Eye and The Gripping Hand by best-selling SF duo Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. With a fresh point of view, deep continuity, and page-turning plot twists, J.R. (Jennifer) Pournelle brings a mature generation of Moties to life for a mature generation of readers. Outies introduces new characters, adds depth to beloved old ones, creates a rich, imaginable world, and gives clear voices to aliens and outsiders.

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Disappointing

Outies is a sequel to The Gripping Hand by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle which is itself a sequel to The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. The Mote in God's Eye remains one of the best science fiction books ever written. It has a logical, well developed universe, interesting plot and great editing. The Gripping Hand was an interesting sequel to The Mote in God's Eye but its editing was horrible. Unfortunately, Outies continues the downward trend.

When I originally found out that a sequel to The Gripping Hand was available I was excited. I wanted to like this book but after reading it I can't recommend it. The biggest issues for me were the retcons (retroactive continuity changes) and editing. The retcons are not minor changes but are major ones that change the very nature of the Mote universe and the previous storyline. As an example (one that doesn't give away any spoilers), spaceships don't exit hyperspace near habitable planets; if they did then the Empire would not be possible. A previous blogger recommend that J. R. Pournelle read Building the Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle and I heartily agree with that suggestion. Another issue with the book is the editing. I think a very poor job was done. As one example, the writing at times is interesting but at other times it is overly complex and confusing.

Given the ending, it looks like J. R. Pournelle is planning to write a sequel. I hope she does. However, I also hope that, if she doesn't have professional editing done on the manuscript, she circulates it among some trusted friends who can give her honest, detailed feedback. Even better would be if she also circulated it among some fans of Mote and asked for feedback as to the changes she's making to the Mote universe. I think she would also benefit from running her manuscript by some people in the hard science fields. Even though I've been critical of J. E. Pournelle's first science fiction novel I wish her success in the future as a writer and storyteller.
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No. This book is not about belly buttons. ...

No. This book is not about belly buttons.

In 1974 Jerry Pournelle published a book titled "The Mote in God's Eye" with an assist from Larry Niven. Then in 1993 the two combined on a sequel titled "The Gripping Hand". These were both hard science fiction novels about first contact with a species from the 'Mote'. They were referred to as Moties. During both novels there was a third group. These were planets outside the Empire of Man. Outies.

Although there wasn't a lot of story line in the two novels about this third group, J.R. (Jennifer) Pournelle picked up where her father left off with this 2011 print regarding life on one of those worlds. A world that hasn't even drawn the interest of the Empire.

Although in this version there are no space battles, the author does paint an exciting world full of mystery and suspense, including murder, kidnapping and political battles as the world makes an attempt at being accepted into the Empire. The blockade enacted to keep the prolifically reproducing Moties out of Empire space is working. Or is it?
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Outies - a wanabe writer

Complaints:
The Author is prominently displayed as J.R. Pournelle. By the time I discovered it was Jennifer Pournelle, (Jerry's daughter?), it was far too late. While it may be wonderful that Jennifer wants to carry on in her father's tradition, she has a long way to go. She should have written another 20 books before she tackled a sequel to a blockbuster series. The original books were written in the Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven style and she apparently has not spent enough time around them to absorb their creative synergism.

Jennifer is far too stilted and esoteric in her writing. Although she does intersperse some action, there is not nearly enough to satisfy the average reader. I am of above average intelligence, but was rather bored by this book. I'm not saying it was below my level of intelligence because it wasn't. She seems to be an intelligent person, perhaps too intelligent? Admittedly, I have only reached page 107 before having to put it down for the second time. I have struggled through a lot of books in my life, but I am not sure if I will pick this up again. Perhaps on a long vacation... ...maybe then I will have to write a retraction. Which I will be happy to do if that happens.

Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven have done a small disservice to the SF community by so highly recommending her book. I understand this happens. A daughter and a very good friend's daughter. I would likely do the same thing. Nevertheless, it undermines their credibility. Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven are two of my favorite authors, by the way.

Positives: I can only hope that she will get better and put some more action and explanation in her future books. I may even come to like her writing!
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NO, No - go away!

I thought Jerry was writing a sequel without Larry, which could have been very okay. Nope, it was Jerry's daughter and reads like a first attempt). The writing was poor and the whole idea seemed to me to contradict a bunch of the Motie universe basics. Yeah, being a Motie fan,I just had to buy it, and read it, but I wish I hadn't.
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Very difficult to read.

There might be a good story here but it is such a difficult read I'll never know. Verbose. Referring to the same character with different names; e.g., Johannes then Major then Trippe back to Major . . .. There are at least two sentences without verbs. The rate of development of any story is somniferous. Perhaps some professional editing would have allowed me to concentrate on the possible story.
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Not a Gripping tale

It has the characters, but not the tone. I made it through 4 chapters and stopped, unable to continue. I have read the first two books multiple times and I very much enjoyed them. This was not the same tale, it sought to change things established in the other books and did not at all continue the thread of the previous stories. I was not impressed.
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Outies - don't waste your money

This book was terrible. I'm assuming no editors looked it over before it went to print. It made so little sense that I questioned my own sanity at times. Seriously, this is a terrible, terrible book. Scatterbrain ideas, poor use of chronology, no consistency (for example, she calls one of the characters by 3 different names throughout the book), and WTF is this volcano with a giant laser in it? No explanation. No explanations in general. Good luck with this one if you buy this book... you'll regret it.
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I hated it

First I got hoodwinked into buying it, thinking Jerry wrote it. I am not into memorising the authors middle initial. I really really gave it a good try. I suffered three chapters. I could not carry on. Its all over the place and very complicated. There are too many characters in the first three chapters to get hold of the story. Its just too hard to read.
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A Confusing Mess

Like others who have commented here, I am a big fan of the Mote series. I rejoiced upon discovering this continuation and bought it with little thought. Then I read it.

First, I find great inspiration within the pages. There are some interesting concepts worthy of the previous works. But these are drowned out by other problems. The storyline is both logically and structurally chaotic.

The events of the story center around the Second Empire of Man bringing a lost planet, New Utah, back into the fold. This is complicated by various factions on the ground. Nice so far, but the factions are confusing. There are a couple religious factions, at least one mercenary contingent, an imperial citizen throwing a wrench into the process for personal gain, etc. But its really difficult to figure out what each group wants and why. Then there are the alien Moties which inhabit the planet. But are they Moties? At one point we are told they are not. But everything points to them being some sort of mutated Moties! I just don't get it.

Then there are the mechanical problems. Numerous misspellings, commas in the wrong place, poorly formatted sentences, etc. make reading this tome very troublesome.

I can normally finish a book of this length in about 4 days. It took me around 10 days to finish this one and I nearly gave up a few times! By the way this story ended, I smell follow on novels. I hope they are better.
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Great addition to the "Mote in God's Eye" milieu

Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle gave us [[ASIN:0671741926 The Mote in God's Eye]] and followed it with [[ASIN:0671795740 The Gripping Hand]]. After almost twenty years, Jerry Pournelle's daughter has given us the latest entry in the series, "Outies".

This story picks up only a few years after the conclusion of "The Gripping Hand" (TGH). Sir Kevin Renner is involved with the survey of the planet mentioned briefly in TGH, New Utah. The dynamics of New Utah turn out to be far more complex than anyone had anticipated. Enter ASACH Quinn, an eccentric anthropologist. Quinn has been there and done that, and traveled the galaxy doing research and alienating the academic establishment. And that's about as much as can be said without spoilers.

I enjoyed the story. The characters were engaging and complex, the settings were intriguing and well developed, and the plot was thought provoking. I can see where purists of the original series wouldn't like it. J.R. brought a grittiness based on her experiences in Iraq to the story, but this made some aspects of the story far more plausible than they might have been.

I suspect there is a bit of catharsis for the author here. In that way, this book put me in mind of [[ASIN:0671698672 Hammer's Slammers]], which was explicitly David Drake's way of dealing with some of his experiences in Vietnam. J.R.'s presentation of the "military contractors", corrupt local militia, and dysfunctional towns was clearly based on Baghdad between 2004 and 2009. I'm not sure when J.R. was there, but I'd wager a bottle of bourbon that it was in that time frame. This did not hurt the story though.

A great addition to the world of the Moties.

E.M. Van Court
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