And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks
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And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks

Hardcover – November 1, 2008

Price
$40.42
Format
Hardcover
Pages
224
Publisher
Grove Press
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ISBN-13
978-0802118769
Dimensions
5.75 x 1 x 8.5 inches
Weight
11.5 ounces

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From Booklist Lucien Carr, college roommate of Allen Ginsberg and friend of both William S. Burroughs and Jack Kerouac, killed David Kammerer in 1944. Ginsberg began and then abandoned a novel based on the incident; Burroughs and Kerouac collaborated and completed this one, which has remained unpublished until now. Writing alternating chapters from alternating points of view, the eventual Beat icons adopted a hard-boiled voice without adopting the conventions of a crime novel. Where most crime novels start with a murder, Hippos leads up to it, and the only tension is generated by the reader’s knowledge of what happened in real life. But if it isn’t successful as a crime novel, it’s fascinating for the glimpses it provides into the authors’ lifestyles (the aimless partying is more On the Road than The Big Sleep) and its indications of the writing styles they would later develop. Interestingly, while references to Rimbaud suggest a parallel to the poet’s volatile love affair with Verlaine, the portrayal of Carr, aka “Phillip Tourian,” is not romanticized—in fact, he would have been a great character for Hammett, Cain, or Chandler to work with. --Keir Graff “A combination hard-boiled murder mystery and existentialist lament– think Dashiell Hammett meets Albert Camus…an essential document of the Beat Generation.” –Gerald Nicosia, San Francisco Chronicle “[A] persuasive portrait of la vie boheme in all its aimlessness and squalor.” –Amanda Heller, The Boston Globe “A literary curiosity, a genuine collectible.” –Carolyn See, The Washington Post “Reveals two giants-to-be in the development stages of their craft…With its evocative rendition of now-vanished saloons, bygone diners, and other landmarks of yesteryear, Burroughs and Kerouac may have inadvertently done for 1944 Greenwich Village what Joyce did for 1904 Dublin.” –George Kimball, The Phoenix (Boston)"The appearance in print of And the Hippos Were Boiled In Their Tanks by William S. Burroughs and Jack Kerouac is a literary event, not only because it drew two of the three leading Beat writers into confederacy, but because the book told a story – of male friendship, gay obsession, and murder – that came to fascinate a score of American authors… It’s a fascinating snapshot from a lost era. If you’re looking for the link between Hemingway’s impotent post-war drifters in The Sun Also Rises, the barflies and Tralalas of Last Exit to Brooklyn and the zonked-out kids of Bret Easton Ellis’s Less Than Zero, look no further.” —John Walsh, The Independent “In alternating chapters, Burroughs and Kerouac serve up a noir vision of Manhattan… Of the two, Kerouac, then in his early 20s, is the more developed writer, though Burroughs, an absolute beginner, already shows some of the interests and obsessions that will turn up in Naked Lunch and elsewhere, to say nothing of an obviously field-tested understanding of how syringes work… For his part, Kerouac recounts wartime experiences in the Merchant Marine, along with notes on the bar scene that would do Bukowski proud.”— Kirkus Reviews “[Hippos] significantly predates Kerouac’s major novels and illuminates his dynamic and productive literary friendship with William S. Burroughs. … it is very charming. … The conceit of switching back and forth between narrators every chapter also keeps things speeding along—it creates the illusion that one is listening to a radio broadcast from one station, only to have the frequency changed every few minutes, with the narrative sometimes overlapping and the two voices bleeding into another.”—Andrew Martin, Open Letters Monthly “Illuminates the links between Sam Spade and Sal Paradise, noir nihilism and Beat exuberance.” —Timothy Hodler, Details “If you care about either of these beat masters … I don’t see how you can fail to enjoy [And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks]. Slight as it may seem at first glance, it’s an invaluable document of literary history, glimmering with nascent genius.”—Craig Seligman, Bloomberg News “Naughtily sexual and emotionally grimy, written is a prose style that is deadpan-dry and larded with hardboiled atmosphere. This oddly titled novel is an engaging literary and historical curio.” —Richard Labone, Between the Lines “Spellbinding. …with spot-on dialogue and descriptions of seedy bars and jam-packed apartments, the authors serve up a fascinating look at a time of late night parties, casual sex and a devil-may-care approach to life.” —Jackie Crosby, Minneapolis Star-Tribune “An eccentric, engaging, and readable novel… What makes the novel particularly fascinating, however, is its ability to provide a window into the early autobiographical styles of both Burroughs and Kerouac as emerging, unpublished writers.”—Marcus Niski, The Sydney Morning Herald “As an insight into the formative years of the Beats, it’s fascinating.”—Nick Rennison, The Sunday Times (London)

Features & Highlights

  • More than sixty years ago, William S. Burroughs and Jack Kerouac sat down inNew York City to write a novel about the summer of 1944, when one of their friends killed another in a moment of brutal and tragic bloodshed. The two authors were then at the dawn of their careers, having yet to write anything of note. Alternating chapters and narrators, Burroughs and Kerouac pieced together a hard-boiled tale of bohemian New York during World War II, full of drugs and obsession, art and violence. The manuscript, called
  • And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks
  • after a line from a news story about a fire at a circus, was submitted to publishers but rejected and confined to a filing cabinet for decades. This legendary collaboration between two of the twentieth centuries most influential writers is set to be published for the first time in the fall of 2008. A remarkable, fascinating piece of American literary history,
  • And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks
  • is also an engrossing, atmospheric novel that brings to life a shocking murder at the dawn of the Beat Generation.

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IN PRINT AT LAST!!!! For the first time in over 60 years!!!

First off, the release of this book is nothing short of a literary event: two literary icons known for their convention breaking novels collaborating in fiction and basing their book on a real life murder that happened within their circle of friends. "...HIPPOS..." is not as amazing as Kerouac publicly recalled it being, nor is it really the "minor work" that Burroughs dismissed it as. 64 years after it was written, this book takes on a new importance outside of it's literary merits. The work is instantly fascinating to me (as I think it will be to any fans of these writers) because it is an important early step in these artist's development. We can really get a sense of the early Beats relationships in the book, their wild energy and their literary fascinations.

Kerouac and Burroughs wrote this book from two points of view. The Kerouac is the character Mike Ryko and Burroughs character is Will Dennison. For those of you aquainted with the circle of the Beats, Lucien Carr is the character Philip Tourian, David Kammerer is Al Ramsay, Edie Parker is Janie and Celine Young is Barbara....and so on.

A note to the Kerouac fans....This was written before TOWN & THE CITY and has neither TCs sweeping Wolfean images or ON THE ROAD's spontanious bop prose. One can barely detect Jack's love for words in this book. His writing at times is a little whispy (which hints at his Wolfean tastes) but Jack never dives into the full breadth of nostalgia of which all Kerouac fans know he's capable. His writing is more clipped and economic. In fact one can imagine William Burroughs looking over Jack's pages and telling him, "Less literary, deary" In a rare moment of abandon, Jack does let his character Mike Ryko recount (at length) his wild experiences at sea but that monologue goes on a bit too long and disrupts the clipped flow of what is essentially a dime store crime novel.

Bill's pages resemble his later though commonly dubbed "first book", JUNKY - a novel which I very much enjoyed for the same reason as I enjoyed this. It's early Burroughs, who writes his prose like an anthropologist or a police officer writes on his notepad, "Just the facts"
****But one should keep in mind when reading this book that THESE ARE NOT THE FACTS about what happened with the Carr/Kammerer murder case. Jack and Bill are intentionally creating fictionalized account. Their creative embellishments sometimes reveal their personal interests or preoccupations so it becomes hard to decipher what in the book is fact and what is fiction - much like most of Jack's novels.

Critical Readers Be Warned: I think the reader should curve their expectations accordingly, with respect to the writers youth and inexperience. Though indeed an interesting work, "...Hippos.." is not in the vein of their groundbreaking work. it's a good and quick read, though the book ends abruptly. It seems that Kerouac and Burroughs either lost interest in writing it or were discouraged by Lucien's wishes for them not to continue the book. It was due to Lucien's influence that the book has remained so long out of the public's hands for 60 years. It was only published after Lucien passed in 2005 - RIP.

If it's facts about the real events you want I'd suggest reading one of the many Kerouac or Burroughs biographies available - though many have contradicting information. It should be mentioned that James Grauerholtz's Afterward for the book will be quite helpful for those unaware of the true facts of the case. And we should all give a big thank you to Mr. Grauerholtz, executive of the Burroughs estate for publishing this book at long last. It really is a gift.
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The Hippos are Ready to Serve!

And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks is an early novel by Jack Kerouac and William S. Burroughs that has interested fans of both authors works for decades. Based on a tragic event within their inner circle, Hippos is a roman à clef novel told through the perspectives of Will Dennison (Burroughs) and Mike Ryko (Kerouac) in alternating chapters. Those familiar with the various figures of the Beat Generation will likely recognize a number of characters, although the story primarily concerns the relationship between Philip Tourian and Allen "Al" Ramsay, based on Lucien Carr and David Kammerer respectively. It's an intriguing story that was purposefully kept in the shadows for years, so how can you resist? I wont share it here, but if you're interested in learning about the publication obstacles Hippos endured the executor of the Burroughs estate, James Grauerholz, added an informative Afterword to the book.

Prior to reading Hippos I was very familiar with the event it is based on and the history of the Beats. Since I started reading Burroughs, nearly a decade ago, he has become my favorite author whose work I cant stop reading. I was late to the party on this one mainly because I knew the story of Lucien Carr and David Kammerer already and not being all that interested in reading Kerouac. After having read it though, I'm surprised how much of my opinion on the Carr-Kammerer event has changed. The unique feature of Hippos is that it was written within a year of the tragic event it is based on when the memories the authors had of Carr and Kammerer were fresh. While I was reading the book I often wondered how much of the dialogue was taken directly from real life. Even if you're familiar with the events as I was, I'd strongly urge you to consider picking this one up. I had basically made up my mind on what kind of person I understood David Kammerer to be and Hippos made me reconsider things.

Shortly after Hippos was published in 2008 a film was made that was also based on the event that inspired the book starring Daniel Radcliffe and Dane DeHann called Kill Your Darlings. Ben Foster, who plays Burroughs, gives an incredible performance as well. Perhaps after reading the book you can see the events come to life with the movie.

Hippos is undoubtedly not the greatest example of either Burroughs or Kerouac's writing, but it's an excellent insight into how these two literary luminaries started out and grew over time. The story is ripe with sensationalism and intrigue that will keep you from wanting to put it down. Definitely add this one to your library!
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The Beat Murder

The only book worth reading about the Lucien Carr/ David Kammerer murder. I highly recommend it as one who bought not one, but 2 versions of the killings that turned out to be cliff notes.
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A Nice Surprise - Presages *Junkie* and *On The Road*

This was great. I completely expected this to be something that was only published because there is a market for these two authors; but it turned out to be a very interesting read.

The half of the book written by Burroughs has a hard boiled detective tone to it - although it does not feature any sort of detection. This doesn't really suggest any of the style found in *Naked Lunch* or other later works - it reads like a "prequel" to *Junkie.*

The Kerouac half was the best part - it is almost like the missing early chapters to *On The Road.*

What is especially interesting is the depiction of that place and time - the way people said things, the way they dressed, etc. One guy is described as looking like a bum because of his shabby suit and tie! (These days nobody wears a suit and tie unless they are a lawyer or have a court or prom date.) Also I imagine a novel about homosexuals or drug users would be fairly shocking back in 1945 - now it could be found in a family sitcom.

A long afterword explains some facts about the infamous Lucien Carr murder (which I was totally unfamiliar with) upon which some of the book is based, as well as adding some beat history and the story of how the book came to be published sixty years after it was written - filler, more or less.

Highly recommended.
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very cool insight

This is a great book that provides you insight into the lives of two of America's greatest beat authors. A must read if you enjoy Kerouac and Burroughs.
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A Slight but Fascinating Book

Almost sixty-five years ago, Jack Kerouac and William Burroughs wrote a novel together, the first for either of them, writing alternating chapters. The story was a fictionalization of the events surrounding the stabbing death in 1944 of David Kammerer by Lucien Carr, who were friends or acquaintances of Burroughs and Kerouac. Kammerer's death was the result of his years-long homosexual fascination for and advancements on Lucien Carr. Carr, just nineteen years old, pled guilty to a charge of manslaughter and spent two years in the reformatory in Elmira, New York.

This was the material the two then-unknown writers used in the writing of "And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks," the slight novel they produced together. They tried for publication at the time but failed and the manuscript remained among Kerouac's disordered papers for years. Carr, understandably, wished to put those tragic events behind him and rebuild his life, which he did, going to work for United Press International as a copyboy soon after his release, quickly rising to night news editor and eventually becoming head of UPI's news desk in his successful forty-seven-year career with UPI.

With Carr's death at the age of seventy-nine in 2005, the executors of the Kerouac and Burroughs Trust deemed the time right for the publication of "Hippos," and Grove Press brought the book out three years later.

Given the substance and success of the subsequent writings of Kerouac and Burroughs, "Hippos" is slight by comparison, but the story gives the reader fascinating glimpses of bohemian New York life during World War II, the very beginnings of the culture of the Beat Generation, which Kerouac immortalized in "On the Road," and which Burroughs delved into in "Naked Lunch." Almost as interesting as the novel itself is the thirty-page Afterword by James W. Grauerholz, long-time companion of Burroughs and the executor of his estate, who gives informative context to "the murder that gave birth to the Beats."
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A classic uncovered

To think that this was passed over by publishers when it was first shopped around because no one knew Kerouac or Burroughs. This is a real gem, capturing the essence of both the bright and dark sides of New York City towards the end of WWII and the beginning of the Beat generation. Great depiction of the impact of booze and drug abuse and where it can often take you!
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Burgeoning Beats

A legendary manuscript co-written by Beat Masters, Jack Kerouac and William S. Burroughs, has finally come to light as "And the Hippos Were Boiled in Their Tanks." Written when both were unknown and unpublished, leading hardscrabble lives in wartime New York, the real-life story centers on the doomed relationship between Lucien Carr and David Kammerer, mutual friends of the would-be Beats. Though the names and some facts are changed in the book, "Hippos" is for the most part a deadpan account of the relationship (which ended with Carr stabbing Kammerer with a Boy Scout knife and dumping his body in the Hudson) from the perspectives of Kerouac and Burroughs, who alternate chapters as "Mike Ryko" and "Will Dennison," respectively.

Though they name-check Rimbaud in the book, neither Kerouac at 22 or Burroughs at 30 could wield words the way that Rimbaud could at 17. Talent is there, sure, but the book has too many dry, expository descriptions like this one: "We walked over to a lunch counter on Sixth Avenue. I ordered some ice cream, since I had eaten an early lunch. Then I changed my mind and ordered a stuffed pepper. They both arrived together. The pepper was pretty bad." The problem is that neither Kerouac nor Burroughs offer much psychological insight into the murderer or his victim. Burroughs was at his best in surrealist mode, and Kerouac's great subject was himself, no one else. Kerouac describes Burroughs as the guy "always sitting at a card table in the saloon and withdrawing silently with his money when the hero and the villain start shooting it out." They were both bystanders, non-participants.

Burroughs is how I picture the Devil: a seedy old Southern gentleman whose decadence has bored him to indifference. When Lucien, Phillip in the novel, confesses to Burroughs the murder of his long-time friend, Burroughs' reaction is to proffer legal advice. Kerouac is more interesting, later to become a prose-poet with Catholic and Buddhist undertones, and here a young man with budding literary ambitions. There's an element of envy when Kerouac learns of the murder. "I began to think about how I used to imagine what it would be like to kill someone and how I used to write thousands of words to create that pattern of emotions. Now here stood Phillip beside me, and he had actually done it."

It's not the most admirable reaction, but it's honest, and the writer of "Crime and Punishment" might have admitted the same thought process. For the two burgeoning Beats, the murder of a friend was not a tragedy but an opportunity.
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Five Stars

This is a fine edition and a fine window into these authors.
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The start of their generation, the dawn of dis'con'tent.

This author captures the birth of two beatnick authors. While entirely unrefined, the essence of storytelling (back and forth between Jack and Bill) blossoms in this drunken stroll of intoxicated non-romance.

Not exactly a page-turner, but for its history and development, a MUST READ for the beatnick yup.